Moving from Russia to Ukraine and buying an apartment.

Moving from Russia to Ukraine and buying an apartment.
Forum of real estate Domik.ua.
Legacy, insurance, legalization, domestic and other legal issues.
Jan 12, 2018, 21:44.
Jan 13, 2018, 19:07.
Jan 14, 2018, 00:08.
Two sisters lived in Ukraine, one married a military man and left for Russia, gave birth to a daughter who now wants to move to Ukraine. There everyone has already died, and she is alone now.
Jan 14, 2018, 08:59.
It is better to use it not by a Russian bank, but by a foreign one, which is open in both countries, such as Raffaizen.
There are no problems with buying an apartment, taxes are the same (this is a difference when selling), you only need to get and get the consent of the spouse (if any).
Well, get a residence permit or citizenship without problems, given the pedigree.
Jan 14, 2018, 09:49.
It is better to use it not by a Russian bank, but by a foreign one, which is open in both countries, such as Raffaizen.
Jan 14, 2018, 09:56.
Two sisters lived in Ukraine, one married a military man and left for Russia, gave birth to a daughter who now wants to move to Ukraine. There everyone has already died, and she is alone now.
Jan 14, 2018, 10:01.
Jan 14, 2018, 10:04.
Jan 15, 2018, 11:56.
All operations related to the citizenship of a particular citizen of the Russian Federation are conducted only in a consulate that has been consigned to the region. For example, my mother lives in Zaporozhye, and the consular department – in Kharkov. In other consular departments, the service is NOT carried out.
About citizenship. In my opinion, the issue is long and laborious.
Go to the website of the Russian Consulate and specify what documents are needed today for the citizenship of Ukraine (if this is necessary).
We abandoned this undertaking long ago. The reason: to qualify for Ukrainian citizenship – you must first abandon the Russian. To abandon the Russian (except for all the necessary documents available), there was a certificate from the tax authorities of the Russian Federation that there was no tax arrears in the Russian Federation. At that time, it was not possible to receive such a certificate online (perhaps now already exists).
Jan 15, 2018, 19:31.
Jan 15, 2018, 22:21.
I wrote a bit of nonsense: on the website of the Russian consulate you need to clarify – what documents are needed to exit from Russian citizenship. This had in mind. Hurried.
But I think you understood.
Jan 16, 2018, 09:31.
Jan 16, 2018, 09:50.
Jan 17, 2018, 00:33.
City Baltiysk, 2 storey house and a little garden.
Jan. 17, 2018, 11:53.
There are several such migrants on the forum, including myself. All have done quietly and peacefully, so that nobody knows anything in the Russian Federation. Nu.no there belong to such, party politics. The exit from Russian citizenship is practically impossible, you can years to go-ride, everything is done so that it is impossible to get rid of it.
1) First you need to come to Ukraine and file docks for the restoration of Ukrainian citizenship by right.
birthday. Speaking to the territorial migration service at the place where she plans to buy dwelling. I warn you, it’s unlikely to do this without an intermediary company, the queues are unrealistic, they will drag on for years. Better through the firm, but try yourself first. get a Ukrainian passport, you have to abandon the Russian passport, through the migratory, the Russian passport is sent with the application to the Russian consulate. But it’s purely for Ukraine that you refused the citizenship of the Russian Federation, for Russia it does not count, there is money to pay for the exit after all taxars v.Potom get Ukrainian pasport.Esli doing through the intermediary company, it is a Russian passport, you can send it later, when all operations Nedviga in Russia will be implemented and there should not be returned.
2) You need to buy housing after you have a Ukrainian passport on your hands. Or before that, but there will be a little more tax there.
3) in the Russian Federation to be silent as a fish, why sell and where to go, even the closest, otherwise they will not give it a normal sell. Do not contact Russian banks. To restore the citizenship of Ukraine to keep silent, otherwise they will consider a non-resident and will sabotage 30% of the tax for selling nedvigi , moreover, for brutal laws, residents are not required to report the opening of any accounts abroad and pay taxes from them also in Russia.
4) money to transport 2-3 relatives in shorts, literally, I recommend the train .. Officially allowed 10 KUE per person without declaring. The rest is to hide and be silent. The key word is to be silent.
Jan. 17, 2018, 14:37.
Jan 17, 2018, 14:45.
Jan 17, 2018, 15:52.
Passions are such, old films about post-war times are recalled. It’s terrible, I’m generally a coward to such things, I never broke the law, but life has come like this, as if it would lead to sin. And you are all right, Russia is now pressing all those who do not care about their regime, better quietly and silently. I would go with my own relative to Baltiysk, so that the three of us can come back here, but I’m afraid that we will not return to the Ukrainians.
Jan 17, 2018, 17:20.
But. just some horror stories: keep quiet, do not let in, do not let go.
Of course, I understand that the situation with the Russian Federation is now complicated. But to act through some intermediaries is utter nonsense.
Once again I repeat: my mother lives in Ukraine since 2000, having Russian citizenship and a permanent residence permit (received two years after the availability of a temporary residence permit). And the presence of Russian citizenship does not absolutely complicate her life. Perhaps because she came as a pensioner.
Although also has the right to receive Ukrainian citizenship (for teritorialnym pokhozhennyam). But read carefully the legislation:
1. There are the concepts of “Nabutty gromadyanstva Ukraini pod narodzhennyam” and “Ponnovlenya u gromadjanstv� Ukrainy”.
Absolutely different. None of them fit the term “for the restoration of Ukrainian citizenship by birthright”.
The person, yaka ma� the right to nabutty gromadjanstva Ukraini for pozhozjannjam, � gromadjaninu Ukraini at the moment of the people.
* – �������� ����� ���� � 1 ������� 2001 ���� (�������� ������� Law of Ukraine “About Ukraine’s Gromadya”.) In vypadka, the appearance of the problems that arise from the enormity of the individual, but has been born before the date, neobhidno zvernutisya to the level of the territorial government of the DMS of Ukraine.
3. Withdrawal from the citizenship of the RF of a person residing on the territory of Ukraine is carried out on the basis of an application, along with which the following documents are submitted (the list is on the website of the Russian consulate). Point 8 of this list reads “Help on the absence of tax debt to the Russian Federation (issued at the tax office for the last residence in the territory of the Russian Federation) – ONLY ORIGINAL.
If she is NOT retired, she will also need to work.
To summarize, I would recommend going officially – by preparing in advance. Having studied the normative documents on this matter, both Ukrainian and Russian.
Jan 17, 2018, 18:21.
But. just some horror stories: keep quiet, do not let in, do not let go.


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