Where is the real emigration?

Where is the real emigration?
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Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 8:45.
I want to leave Russia – almost all the same where .. but that’s almost confusing, I hope you will help – with real data?
Well, about myself))) 37 years old, higher professional education – I’m a doctor, reproductologist. she has worked for 7 years, now she has been working in another field related to medicine for 5 years, but not a doctor – the certificate of an obstetrician-gynecologist is in force.
Languages English – working: shock: (in the sense of working in a company where all communication is even between Russian employees only in English), I never took exams therefore by criteria, points I can not determine. but I communicate freely both in professional communities and in everyday life, movies, books and so on.
German – basic, completed 5 years ago to B1, and abandoned this venture – now probably only on A1 scrape knowledge.
my almost, which on one side binds and limits me strongly at the move, and on the other hand very strongly pushes to immigration – because whatever you say – even all my connections in the medical community. do not provide the proper level: this is a child, 8 years old, with type 1 diabetes mellitus.
In general, we need your help in choosing a country with real chances for permanent residence, with good medical insurance and the possibility of having it right away at the initial stage of immigration, because insulin will immediately be needed, and so on.
The opportunity to buy real estate and other expensive options are not available for me .. there is an opportunity to pay for studies – but somehow I think it’s too late .. or as a chance, of course, I’m ready to use, especially since there is not much work to be done in training ..
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 13:34.
1) what is your budget for immigration?
2) Are you going to work in another country as a doctor or do you agree to change your occupation?
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 14:46.
thank you for responding)) – a budget of up to 20 thousand euros is the maximum, work is the doctor is absolutely not fundamental. indicated it simply as an opportunity – I saw in my list of popular specialties in Australia – just obstetricians-gynecologists are. and there is still a diploma of a paramedic)))) well, and the card is a reduced threshold for salaries for doctors.
Well, in general, with a work permit in the country where the local language is English – I think that it’s fairly easy to find a job. since my other work experience in clinical research. work is not sugar, constant turnover, the average salary is about 1500 euros in the world in all .. there is always a job – but looking for a job from Russia in this industry is not an option. nor any of the employers will not bother – their cannon fodder is enough. paradoxically, yes?)) I know this is not from theory.
at the last resort – all work is good)) I think unskilled service is always.
that I’m looking for – looking for a favorable, fastest way to dump from Russia with my initial data. with good social security in terms of medicine for the child.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 17:41.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 17:51.
Thank you. Looking for work from Russia? or just for permanent residence to move? and how much time does it take? I apologize for many questions))) the question is very important about the time for moving.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:10.
Of course everywhere there are & quot; pitfalls & quot; and the main one is finding a normal, well-paid job, which is not so easy without a local higher education. At least in Germany, this is mainly possible only programmers. Since you must understand that one thing is your de facto education and quite another de juro, that is, in another country, I can not “recognize” it. and here there can be a problem with employment in your specialty. And not everyone can / want to re-learn at 37 years of age, although in theory it’s all easy and simple;)
You should also understand that Australia (and Canada) is a very expensive country and for the first time, until you are assured, the money will simply fly away.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:22.
this is understandable (((and this saddens incredibly – that’s why I stayed here, since there is an official Google, but there are real stories of people.
but everything is still not rosy – here I look Australia and there is my specialty in the list of those in demand. on fact I look vacancies – everywhere official confirmation of a specialty and prof.prigodnosti – and it in medicine years! in any country – even in Russia in my clinic, I worked half a year for the minimum minimum, I worked out my skills – and after two years of residency, i.e. almost independent work (((I do not have time for this now.
In this connection, the question can I be submitted to Australia as a type of job search by a doctor – but in fact to look for work is not a doctor and can I be taken not by a doctor?)): Eek:
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:31.
On your second question: if you get permission to enter this program, and that is under your specialty (if at all possible for all countries), then I think you will not be able to find work for another, otherwise your visa will in fact be invalid, so as it does not correspond to the original condition for filling the required vacancy, under which you received the & quot; BC & quot; (or what’s in Australia ?!) Moreover, if it pops up (and most likely will float away), then it does not poke a little, because it is a deception of the state. Yes, and a little really you will find jobs without a specialty, I mean, if you are a doctor / doctor and are looking for work as a financial analyst, then you are without education, respectively, since you are a doctor, not a financial analyst. In highly developed countries, most of them work in their specialty, although of course if the exceptions are different, the Freelancers and the TPP, but this is not at all about that.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:38.
so I consider the work of a doctor as an exceptional option))) I have another decent professional experience – which is also very valuable in the world, but only with a work permit))) so I return to my original question where. can quickly and legally leave.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:41.
Do you not understand that it is impossible to seek a job especially for a foreigner and even more so without a profession in a highly developed country?
& quot; can quickly and legally leave. & quot; – in a highly developed country – nowhere, since the bureaucracy will be everywhere, which means very quickly it will not work out in any way. And what’s the point in not developing?
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 19:57.
and you understand that nothing is impossible? and my theme is created not once again to listen to what I can and so google))) however I need advice, real life advice – and attempts to teach me life))) I myself who want to teach))). You as have left? do you live? Everything okay?
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 20:04.
determine if you want & quot; quickly and legally leave & quot; or & quot; check the limits of a possible & quot;?!
It’s like completely different things: shock: You, as I understand it, want to find the easiest option ?!
We left, on the German line and we were lucky we “not for long” waited, only two years of bureaucratic fuss.
For you (as for 90% of women who want to immigrate) probably the simplest option will be to get married. All other options (except for official programs of the Jewish and German lines) are more complicated and mutarne at times.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 20:24.
)))) I’m married so it’s not an option.
if you left on an ethnic line – then yes, thank you for your attention – it’s unlikely that your experience will be useful to me))))
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 20:39.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 20:51.
to work to take ready))) to issue a visa is not ready. I’m not a unique specialist. in Russia for my current specialty I have a higher medical education and a good experience of practical work in medicine – which gives me a significant advantage over others, i.e. the circle is substantially narrowed.
and in any other country – you need an excellent knowledge of the local language + excellent English ie. I opened the way to countries where the official language is English. it’s kind of and not a little. but not too much.
What I see now is just leaving the second higher education somewhere, probably in Germany or the rest of the country. and there already in parallel to search for work-work-in-training-internship. something like this .
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 21:02.
It will not happen quickly, unless you are a unique high-class specialist, for whose sake a potential employer will seat the thresholds of the relevant ministries and agencies for the sake of a working visa for you.
According to the experience of doctors in Canada:
1. A woman is a gynecologist. From the moment of entry into the country, until the beginning of the work of a doctor. and the therapist, and not the obstetrician-gynecologist (to retrain and take exams was easier on the therapist) spent 10 years. Her husband always worked hard at the construction site, she only taught and passed the exams.
2. The other family is both husband and wife doctors. My wife learned in college on ultrasound technique. took about 5 years in total. Her husband is still learning.
3. A male doctor could not pass the exams, there was the last, nervous breakdown and the departure from medicine to the concierge.
About other countries do not tell you.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 21:06.
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 21:16.
this immediately disappears (((
I can ask around – did the people have money to live for the entire study period? is there an opportunity to earn money? Here’s the man I’m interested in that did not pass the exams – he did in the end in the country remained? or forced to return to their homeland?
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 21:17.
A doctor with a Russian diploma without retraining in developed countries will not work. Clinical research or something like that – maybe there really are not any options at all?
Re: Where is the real emigration?
Jan 07, 2017, 21:26.
A doctor with a Russian diploma without retraining in developed countries will not work. Clinical research or something like that – maybe there really are not any options at all?
husband specializing in heat and power engineering. without knowing any foreign languages. will go somewhere to work in a specialty. if they take – the applicant I precisely because of the language tests for the visa.
but about the options – here as I already wrote knowledge of the local language – it’s about a year to study in an environment with immersion – I’m ready for this option – but the question of status at the time of study? without immersion in the environment – to learn the language to the desired level I do not really.


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